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Regarding Stephan's and my schedule we would appreciate either
Thursday or Friday, since we got our "Software Engineering II" test
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Except for the 28th itself
that's fine
with me. Maybe, as last time, starting 15:30 or 16:00?<br>
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<font color="#004080" face="Calibri" size="3">Makes sense for
me. The week
starting Feb28 would be good. If that works for everyone else,
I can organize
a room. I'm flexible that week. Let me know which days work
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On 02/11/2011 08:35 PM, Stephan Erb wrote:<br>
> Hey Axel,<br>
><br>
> I have no clue. Your proposal sounds reasonable to me
but I wouldn't
bet<br>
> on it, given the fact that sometimes TextBlocks are
merged if they
don't<br>
> contribute to the concrete syntax.<br>
><br>
> This discussion somewhat implies to me that we are
wasting our energy:<br>
> Our second-most important data structure, the
TextBlocks model, is
so<br>
> complex and underspecified that we constantly struggle
with it.<br>
><br>
> I would suggest that we try to redesign the TextBlocks
model so that
it<br>
> is easier to handle. For example, each TextBlock could
have exactly
one<br>
> corresponding ModelElement. If TextBlocks contain no
concrete syntax,<br>
> then they would simply have no subnodes. I guess we
can think
of even<br>
> more simplifications.<br>
><br>
> This is additional short term effort, but I am very
sure it is a<br>
> worthwhile investment.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Best Regards,<br>
> Stephan<br>
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> On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 17:19 +0100, Uhl, Axel wrote:<br>
>> Stephan,<br>
>><br>
>> thinking about this again suggest something else. I
don't think
we want to rely on the token's referencedElements to be set
in order to
determine whether the token is the one that belongs to the
update notification
received. The token may be stale anyway because it was in
some remote resource
that didn't get updated upon an earlier change.<br>
>><br>
>> Instead, we should be looking for the token's
parent text blocks.
They should lead to a text block, ultimately, whose
corresponding model
element is the one to be updated with the resolution of the
token, shoulnd't
it?<br>
>><br>
>> I'm just uncertain again how the LexedToken may be
nested inside
TextBlocks. Can I assume that the LexedToken's getParent()
is the template
that has in its correspondingModelElements the element to be
updated with
the property?<br>
>><br>
>> -- Axel<br>
>><br>
>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From:
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Of Stephan
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>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:12 PM<br>
>>> To: furcas-discussion<br>
>>> Subject: Re: [furcas-discussion] Reference
Re-Evaluation Algorithm<br>
>>><br>
>>>>> PS: Thomas, we might need your help
with all this
textblocks magic<br>
>>>>> (e.g.<br>
>>>>> find out if a reference is still
bound). Expect some
questions on<br>
>>> the<br>
>>>>> mailing list rather soon :-)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I found that out myself. In this case it
was an easy reverse
lookup<br>
>>> on DocumentNode_SequenceElement using the
OppositeEndFinder
API.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Axel,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I just had a (very) short look at the
OCLQueryPropertyUpdate.
Is there<br>
>>> a<br>
>>> reason why the 'referencedElements' aren't
checked anywhere?
I always<br>
>>> thought that those entail the crucial
information whether
a token is<br>
>>> bound to something or not.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Example from the MOIN code base where used
them:<br>
>>><br>
>>> private Collection<?>
findCurrentlySetElements(DelayedReference<br>
>>> unresolvedRef, ModelInjector modelInjector,<br>
>>>
LexedToken tokenInCurrentConnection) throws<br>
>>> ModelAdapterException {<br>
>>><br>
>>> Collection<?>
valueCollection =<br>
>>>
modelInjector.getModelAdapter().get(unresolvedRef.getModelElement(),<br>
>>> unresolvedRef.getPropertyName());<br>
>>> if
(tokenInCurrentConnection != null) {<br>
>>><br>
>>>
valueCollection.retainAll(tokenInCurrentConnection.getReferencedElement<br>
>>> s());<br>
>>> }<br>
>>> return
valueCollection;<br>
>>> }<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>> Stephan<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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The week starting Feb28 would be good. If that works for
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week. Let me know which days work for you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[furcas-discussion] Reference
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<tt>On 02/11/2011 08:35 PM, Stephan Erb wrote:</tt><br>
<tt>> Hey Axel,</tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>> I have no clue. Your proposal sounds reasonable
to me but I wouldn't bet</tt><br>
<tt>> on it, given the fact that sometimes TextBlocks
are merged if they don't</tt><br>
<tt>> contribute to the concrete syntax.</tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>> This discussion somewhat implies to me that we
are wasting our energy:</tt><br>
<tt>> Our second-most important data structure, the
TextBlocks model, is so</tt><br>
<tt>> complex and underspecified that we constantly
struggle with it.</tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>> I would suggest that we try to redesign the
TextBlocks model so that it</tt><br>
<tt>> is easier to handle. For example, each
TextBlock could have exactly one</tt><br>
<tt>> corresponding ModelElement. If TextBlocks
contain no concrete syntax,</tt><br>
<tt>> then they would simply have no subnodes. I
guess we can think of even</tt><br>
<tt>> more simplifications.</tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>> This is additional short term effort, but I am
very sure it is a</tt><br>
<tt>> worthwhile investment.</tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>> Best Regards,</tt><br>
<tt>> Stephan</tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>></tt><br>
<tt>> On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 17:19 +0100, Uhl, Axel
wrote:</tt><br>
<tt>>> Stephan,</tt><br>
<tt>>></tt><br>
<tt>>> thinking about this again suggest something
else. I don't think we want to rely on the token's
referencedElements to be set in order to determine
whether the token is the one that belongs to the
update notification received. The token may be stale
anyway because it was in some remote resource that
didn't get updated upon an earlier change.</tt><br>
<tt>>></tt><br>
<tt>>> Instead, we should be looking for the
token's parent text blocks. They should lead to a text
block, ultimately, whose corresponding model element
is the one to be updated with the resolution of the
token, shoulnd't it?</tt><br>
<tt>>></tt><br>
<tt>>> I'm just uncertain again how the LexedToken
may be nested inside TextBlocks. Can I assume that the
LexedToken's getParent() is the template that has in
its correspondingModelElements the element to be
updated with the property?</tt><br>
<tt>>></tt><br>
<tt>>> -- Axel</tt><br>
<tt>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> -----Original Message-----</tt><br>
<tt>>>> From:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:furcas-discussion-bounces@lists.furcas.org">furcas-discussion-bounces@lists.furcas.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:furcas">mailto:furcas</a>-</tt><br>
<tt>>>> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.furcas.org">discussion-bounces@lists.furcas.org</a>] On
Behalf Of Stephan Erb</tt><br>
<tt>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:12 PM</tt><br>
<tt>>>> To: furcas-discussion</tt><br>
<tt>>>> Subject: Re: [furcas-discussion]
Reference Re-Evaluation Algorithm</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>>>> PS: Thomas, we might need your
help with all this textblocks magic</tt><br>
<tt>>>>>> (e.g.</tt><br>
<tt>>>>>> find out if a reference is
still bound). Expect some questions on</tt><br>
<tt>>>> the</tt><br>
<tt>>>>>> mailing list rather soon :-)</tt><br>
<tt>>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>>> I found that out myself. In this
case it was an easy reverse lookup</tt><br>
<tt>>>> on DocumentNode_SequenceElement using
the OppositeEndFinder API.</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> Hi Axel,</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> I just had a (very) short look at the
OCLQueryPropertyUpdate. Is there</tt><br>
<tt>>>> a</tt><br>
<tt>>>> reason why the 'referencedElements'
aren't checked anywhere? I always</tt><br>
<tt>>>> thought that those entail the crucial
information whether a token is</tt><br>
<tt>>>> bound to something or not.</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> Example from the MOIN code base where
used them:</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> private Collection<?>
findCurrentlySetElements(DelayedReference</tt><br>
<tt>>>> unresolvedRef, ModelInjector
modelInjector,</tt><br>
<tt>>>> LexedToken
tokenInCurrentConnection) throws</tt><br>
<tt>>>> ModelAdapterException {</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> Collection<?>
valueCollection =</tt><br>
<tt>>>>
modelInjector.getModelAdapter().get(unresolvedRef.getModelElement(),</tt><br>
<tt>>>> unresolvedRef.getPropertyName());</tt><br>
<tt>>>> if
(tokenInCurrentConnection != null) {</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>>
valueCollection.retainAll(tokenInCurrentConnection.getReferencedElement</tt><br>
<tt>>>> s());</tt><br>
<tt>>>> }</tt><br>
<tt>>>> return
valueCollection;</tt><br>
<tt>>>> }</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>> Best,</tt><br>
<tt>>>> Stephan</tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
<tt>>>></tt><br>
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